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	<title>Comments on: Home Depot, Hidden Fees, and the Eventual Waste of $37.50</title>
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		<title>By: Brian H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the exact same thing happen to me. I got the $75 back by threatening to do a charge-back with my credit card company. To those who don&#039;t get what Doug&#039;s problem is, companies have to disclose fees in advance. It&#039;s a basic principle of contract law (&quot;meeting of the minds&quot;), which you don&#039;t have to be a lawyer to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the exact same thing happen to me. I got the $75 back by threatening to do a charge-back with my credit card company. To those who don&#8217;t get what Doug&#8217;s problem is, companies have to disclose fees in advance. It&#8217;s a basic principle of contract law (&#8220;meeting of the minds&#8221;), which you don&#8217;t have to be a lawyer to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: johan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy is nuts!! anytime you have a repair man come to the house, he charges a fee for his time, even if the work can not be done. it&#039;s the same for a local repair man or a major company. sounds like their experience was a very good one; excellent customer service by the sales staff, assistant manager, and plumber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy is nuts!! anytime you have a repair man come to the house, he charges a fee for his time, even if the work can not be done. it&#8217;s the same for a local repair man or a major company. sounds like their experience was a very good one; excellent customer service by the sales staff, assistant manager, and plumber.</p>
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		<title>By: kristy foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristy foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we just had Home Depot install a 50 gallon (12yr) water heater in our home. the actual price of the tank was $379 but the bill came to $1450 - how?

earthquake straps, (needed to install some wood foundation to strap tank to) drainage Pan.. then a &quot;required&quot; expansion tank + install, recycle of old tank , replacement of water lines to/from tank as not per code etc.

did we get ripped off? from what I&#039;m reading this is rather typical the 3rd party contractor Home depot quoted a base install (including tank)of $850</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we just had Home Depot install a 50 gallon (12yr) water heater in our home. the actual price of the tank was $379 but the bill came to $1450 &#8211; how?</p>
<p>earthquake straps, (needed to install some wood foundation to strap tank to) drainage Pan.. then a &#8220;required&#8221; expansion tank + install, recycle of old tank , replacement of water lines to/from tank as not per code etc.</p>
<p>did we get ripped off? from what I&#8217;m reading this is rather typical the 3rd party contractor Home depot quoted a base install (including tank)of $850</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Doug. Let&#039;s say you walk into a restaurant, sit down, and the waiter hands you a menu. You look it over, decide you don&#039;t like what&#039;s on it, and leave. Do you tip the waiter? If not, I guess now YOU are the rectum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Doug. Let&#8217;s say you walk into a restaurant, sit down, and the waiter hands you a menu. You look it over, decide you don&#8217;t like what&#8217;s on it, and leave. Do you tip the waiter? If not, I guess now YOU are the rectum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, it seems I&#039;m going to have to continue commenting on this nearly three-year old post. :-)

Both you and Doug have missed the point. You&#039;re focusing on the contractor and his fee. Let me be clear - I have no problem with a contractor getting paid for a trip out to a house, even if he can&#039;t do any work. For the record, I did hire a contractor to handle the installation, and his work was worth every penny that I paid him.

My problem is with Home Depot and their lack of disclosure. As I wrote above, their &lt;em&gt;fee&lt;/em&gt; for functioning as middleman has a compulsory charge of $70 beyond what they quote. That&#039;s deceptive. Also, at no point did they disclose that if an item is unable to be installed, they will charge the customer a mandatory delivery fee. Again, I have no problem with the fee itself, I just want to know about it beforehand! These things don&#039;t take long to disclose, and could easily have been something for me to read and initial in the paperwork when buying the installation. It wasn&#039;t, and that&#039;s the real problem. 

To use your own analogy, what if you got a quote for some dental work, had the work done, and then the dentist charged you a mandatory extra $70 fee for no extra work done? It&#039;s deceptive, and it&#039;s a breach of trust. Had the dentist explained a legitimate purpose for the fee beforehand, that would have been a different story.

Re-read my original post. Again, the existence of the trip fee is not the problem. Home Depot&#039;s deceptiveness is.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you don’t like the codes then call your town hall and tell them to stop implementing state codes and tell them to stop requiring contractors to adhere to them or get fined, then maybe you will see a drop in price.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope you&#039;re joking about that. I think the state codes do far more good than harm, and I sleep better at night knowing my residence has safety codes. Without state codes, there would be far too many lazy contractors taking dangerous shortcuts that could put people&#039;s lives in danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, it seems I&#8217;m going to have to continue commenting on this nearly three-year old post. <img src='http://interestingmoney.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Both you and Doug have missed the point. You&#8217;re focusing on the contractor and his fee. Let me be clear &#8211; I have no problem with a contractor getting paid for a trip out to a house, even if he can&#8217;t do any work. For the record, I did hire a contractor to handle the installation, and his work was worth every penny that I paid him.</p>
<p>My problem is with Home Depot and their lack of disclosure. As I wrote above, their <em>fee</em> for functioning as middleman has a compulsory charge of $70 beyond what they quote. That&#8217;s deceptive. Also, at no point did they disclose that if an item is unable to be installed, they will charge the customer a mandatory delivery fee. Again, I have no problem with the fee itself, I just want to know about it beforehand! These things don&#8217;t take long to disclose, and could easily have been something for me to read and initial in the paperwork when buying the installation. It wasn&#8217;t, and that&#8217;s the real problem. </p>
<p>To use your own analogy, what if you got a quote for some dental work, had the work done, and then the dentist charged you a mandatory extra $70 fee for no extra work done? It&#8217;s deceptive, and it&#8217;s a breach of trust. Had the dentist explained a legitimate purpose for the fee beforehand, that would have been a different story.</p>
<p>Re-read my original post. Again, the existence of the trip fee is not the problem. Home Depot&#8217;s deceptiveness is.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you don’t like the codes then call your town hall and tell them to stop implementing state codes and tell them to stop requiring contractors to adhere to them or get fined, then maybe you will see a drop in price.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re joking about that. I think the state codes do far more good than harm, and I sleep better at night knowing my residence has safety codes. Without state codes, there would be far too many lazy contractors taking dangerous shortcuts that could put people&#8217;s lives in danger.</p>
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		<title>By: Skarrlette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skarrlette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though Doug was a little I harsh, I have to agree with him.  I don&#039;t understand why people think that someone running a business is suppose to perform services for free?  I really don&#039;t get it!  I see this all the time and I feel that contractors are unfairly scrutinized.  

Why don&#039;t you tell your dentist after he is done fixing your teeth that you are not paying?  Or better yet next time you go to resturant tell the waiter your not paying for the ridiculously priced or coke or there 20% tip?

Running a construction business is so expensive people have no idea.  Just driving over to someone&#039;s house is our time, the cost of gas, the cost of insurance, the cost of our expertise, the cost of license fess, continuing education fees, and advertising, and also last but not least this is how we put food on the table and pay our bills!!! 

When you go to work do you tell your employer don&#039;t pay me for this or that? Or do you just expect to get paid for your 40hrs?  Well why don&#039;t contractors deserve the same thing? Its really disrespectful if you ask me and I frankly am tired of the abuse and attitude that customers have toward contractors, its skill and a one that takes years of putting up with people&#039;s with bad attitudes, you try this job for a while and see how long you put up with being jerked around by customers and see how much you charge.   

One thing customers can&#039;t seem to get is that its YOUR HOUSE, its not our property we are not going to pay to improve your property and why should we? Are we going to benefit from improvements to your home?  When you go to sell your house are you going to call the contractor that worked on it and give him a percentage  If you don&#039;t like the codes then call your town hall and tell them to stop implementing state codes and tell them to stop requiring contractors to adhere to them or get fined, then maybe you will see a drop in price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though Doug was a little I harsh, I have to agree with him.  I don&#8217;t understand why people think that someone running a business is suppose to perform services for free?  I really don&#8217;t get it!  I see this all the time and I feel that contractors are unfairly scrutinized.  </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you tell your dentist after he is done fixing your teeth that you are not paying?  Or better yet next time you go to resturant tell the waiter your not paying for the ridiculously priced or coke or there 20% tip?</p>
<p>Running a construction business is so expensive people have no idea.  Just driving over to someone&#8217;s house is our time, the cost of gas, the cost of insurance, the cost of our expertise, the cost of license fess, continuing education fees, and advertising, and also last but not least this is how we put food on the table and pay our bills!!! </p>
<p>When you go to work do you tell your employer don&#8217;t pay me for this or that? Or do you just expect to get paid for your 40hrs?  Well why don&#8217;t contractors deserve the same thing? Its really disrespectful if you ask me and I frankly am tired of the abuse and attitude that customers have toward contractors, its skill and a one that takes years of putting up with people&#8217;s with bad attitudes, you try this job for a while and see how long you put up with being jerked around by customers and see how much you charge.   </p>
<p>One thing customers can&#8217;t seem to get is that its YOUR HOUSE, its not our property we are not going to pay to improve your property and why should we? Are we going to benefit from improvements to your home?  When you go to sell your house are you going to call the contractor that worked on it and give him a percentage  If you don&#8217;t like the codes then call your town hall and tell them to stop implementing state codes and tell them to stop requiring contractors to adhere to them or get fined, then maybe you will see a drop in price.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Doug. You missed the point entirely! Congrats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Doug. You missed the point entirely! Congrats!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;QOUTE:&quot;The current method of springing fees on the customer at the last minute without prior notification is not acceptable.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

I find your statement rather funny as the plumber I would have to change your statement to read &quot;Your current method of springing unusual and difficult istallation conditions at the last minute without compensation is not acceptable&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>QOUTE:&#8221;The current method of springing fees on the customer at the last minute without prior notification is not acceptable.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>I find your statement rather funny as the plumber I would have to change your statement to read &#8220;Your current method of springing unusual and difficult istallation conditions at the last minute without compensation is not acceptable&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People never cease to amaze me. YOU and YOUR house are the ones that have the unusual installation requirements that YOU didn&#039;t mention (or maybe didn&#039;t realize)and you expect the Plumbing company to send their truck, use fuel and pay their employee to come to your house to discover this for FREE? You obviously didn&#039;t want to pay the extra above the standard installtion to get this installed so everyone that already spent their money at this point is supposed to walk away uncompensated for their time and expense? What do you do for a living? I&#039;ve got something for you to do at my house, come on over and have a look for me. Then the nerve to bitch about em on the internet. I have my own special list hanging on my office wall just for customers like you. Sorry Mr. Rectum but we are booked solid. BUH BYE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People never cease to amaze me. YOU and YOUR house are the ones that have the unusual installation requirements that YOU didn&#8217;t mention (or maybe didn&#8217;t realize)and you expect the Plumbing company to send their truck, use fuel and pay their employee to come to your house to discover this for FREE? You obviously didn&#8217;t want to pay the extra above the standard installtion to get this installed so everyone that already spent their money at this point is supposed to walk away uncompensated for their time and expense? What do you do for a living? I&#8217;ve got something for you to do at my house, come on over and have a look for me. Then the nerve to bitch about em on the internet. I have my own special list hanging on my office wall just for customers like you. Sorry Mr. Rectum but we are booked solid. BUH BYE.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the $700.00 ceiling fan installation sounds real expensive if the fan rated box and wiring were already in place and it was a normal height ceiling. Our charge is a $75.00 service fee and $150.00 per fan in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the $700.00 ceiling fan installation sounds real expensive if the fan rated box and wiring were already in place and it was a normal height ceiling. Our charge is a $75.00 service fee and $150.00 per fan in that situation.</p>
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